Interview with Ken O’Keefe
“Those that are in the government would carry out the orders of those who are in charge of them and those that are in charge want another war and part of that is what we discussed earlier, the Greater Israel Project, to destabilize any Arab regime which might have any kind of autonomy and self-determination…, Any regime in the Arab world that is not an absolute puppet cannot be tolerated and who are the nations that we target? Those that are not puppets.”
What follows is a rough transcription of the interview.
Press TV: Ken O’Keefe do you agree with that (Lawrence Korb’s remarks)? I mean some are saying, even the US lawmakers, that what Lawrence Korb there said, that it amounts to somewhat of a symbolic type of strike, if anything?
O’Keefe: Well, I do not agree at all. First off, how is it possible that anybody with any kind of sanity would consider the United States or Britain or the West in general to be in any kind of position to be punishing anyone for any illegalities?
If we want to take a look at Iraq, there is at least one million, probably even close to two million dead. We invaded that country, destroyed it, created millions of orphans, millions of refugees and never even so much was apologized for that.
Let us go back to Vietnam where we dropped 20 million bombs, more than all of World War II combined. We have destroyed so many countries. We have tortured and killed and maimed and raped around this planet, who in the hell in their right mind would consider the United States or the West in general to be in any position to punish anybody?
Never mind the obvious facts that this is a false-flag attack in a long list of false-flag attacks, which let us get into that please!
Press TV: Ken O’Keefe, it is kind of ironic that you have the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon and the UN Special Envoy Lakhdar Brahimi, practically if we really look at it, almost begging for the US and its allies including France and the UK to go to the Security Council in order to get backing for this, but of course you are saying let the chemical investigation by the UN inspectors to take place and for the results come out.
I mean what does that mean in terms of international law, what the US, UK and France in particular are pursuing here?
O’Keefe: Well, we do not operate under international law. What we have is the color of law, the law of the jungle in which the rich and the powerful, basically, determine what goes and what does not go. Iraq is a perfect example of that.
Why is not Tony Blair and George Bush rotting away in prison cell for the rest of their lives? Because the law is not being applied.
These are war criminals and they should be in prison for the rest of their lives, if not executed, if their own rules were adhered to, for their own crimes.
Not only that, but we need to really understand the truth here. First off, all of these players, these politicians are nothing more than puppets. They do not serve the people, there is no real democracy, they really serve the rich and powerful who run the world and that would be the bankers who control the money supply.
The bankers, of course, make huge amounts of money, whether they have made bad investments or not wars are great for them and ultimately they control the politicians and that is why we see these policies.
Obama and Cameron are nothing more than puppets who read the script and the script is: We need another war.
And the reason why we need another war, according to the psychopaths who are running the world, is because more and more people, despite the clueless masses who continue to be entranced by things so ridiculous as the X Factor and the American Idol, there are larger numbers of people around the world who are realizing the truth and beginning to recapture the capacity to think for themselves and they can see that these people who have been put in positions of public trust, are defying that trust and representing an agenda, which they could never speak about openly, because they are nothing more than … and nothing more than minions for the powers that be.
Press TV: It is very interesting Ken O’Keefe. I do not know if you caught the presser that Bashar al-Jafari, Syria’s envoy to the UN had earlier, a couple of hours back, and he said that this is all because of Israel, Israel is actually responsible behind the uprisings from North Africa throughout the Middle East; and this is a push by Israel onto US to, basically, go and attack Syria.
What is Israel’s role in this, Ken O’Keefe?
O’Keefe: Well, the greater Israel Project is all about destabilizing, surrounding nations, ultimately in pursuit of this dream of greater Israel from the Euphrates down to the Nile, all the way over to the Eastern Mediterranean. This is the dream of these psychopaths and so destabilizing governments, creating sectarian strife, is all part of that menu and all part of the design to create a greater Israel. So that goes …, it is self-evident.
I have to go back to what this gentleman was saying in Washington D.C. about the Americans not wanting to get involved or Obama not getting involved.
What are you talking about? We have been arming people, directly, who are al-Qaeda! Al-Nusrah Front is al-Qaeda! These people are psychopath to the worst order; they are conducting suicide attacks, they are gassing people, we know Carla Del Ponte said in May that it was the so-called rebels in Syria that were using the Sarin gas not the Bashar al-Assad regime. No it was not!
We know that the United States’ president is arming people who are on the US terrorist list. He should be convicted of aiding and abetting, giving material support to a terrorist organization but then again, you know, what we are …, we the West, the United States and in particular Israel and Britain, are the biggest terrorists on the planet.
So our little junior partners and al-Qaeda, which is nothing more than a CIA database, thus the name al-Qaeda, this is nothing more than a group of terrorists working together each playing one different role but all of them working together for the same goal which is to maintain this hideous and sick and twisted unjust world that we have, which is a perpetual state of war. Always one illusion, one bogyman after another but the fact is that Obama is nothing more than a puppet war criminal just like his predecessors and every other US president before him.
So please do not tell people out there that the US is not involved. It is directly involved and it is arming people who are absolute psychopaths.
Press TV: Ken O’Keefe yesterday Walid al-Muallem and then we had Bashar al-Jaafari today talk about how they have allowed the inspectors to go in, but it seems and why is that …, and I am thinking do not they have intelligence? Does not the United States already know who is behind this? It is obvious it is not the Syrian government.
An analyst has said two possibilities: One, obviously being the insurgents who have this and at a very low scale perhaps, maybe some low-ranking soldiers of the Syrian army not carrying through orders of not using chemical weapons but going out on their own which he has said there is a very small possibility of that.
Why does not the US want to wait along with its allies for the inspectors to analyze what has come out and then make an announcement based on that before they move in or attack?
O’Keefe: Because the United States has never been interested in anything other than war. The United States is in a perpetual state of war because the bankers control the politicians and they read the script as given to them by the banksters and they make huge amounts of money off of this.
What this gentleman is saying about the United States not wanting war and not wanting to get involved in this like Iraq 2.0. It is a repeat of the same rubbish that was said: Oh! We do not want war! War is the last resort. That is absolutely untrue, it is a lie.
Those that are in the government are nothing more than … who would carry out the orders of those who are in charge of them and those that are in charge want another war and part of that is what we discussed earlier, the Greater Israel Project, to destabilize any Arab regime which might have any kind of autonomy and self-determination.
Any regime in the Arab world that is not an absolute puppet cannot be tolerated and who are the nations that we target? Those that are not puppets. We do not target those like the Saudi regime, which is the biggest human rights violator in that region. It is cutting off peoples’ heads in public, cutting off hands, it is the most grotesque regime on the planet and yet we give that regime weapons and it is no problem whatsoever.
The duplicity and hypocrisy of the United States and the West cannot even be measured, it is so enormous and these mouthpieces such as this gentleman in Washington is only doing the disservice to himself and his country and the fact is that the American sons and daughters will get involved in this yet again and these chicken hawks who are pretending to care about the Syrian people are going to be sacrificing not their own sons and daughters, I would like this man to send his sons and daughters and his grandchildren off to Syria when this turns into a greater conflict because this is what we are flirting with, [it] is a world war, a third world war, this is not a joke.
We are flirting with the Third World War on the basis that apparently we care so much about the Syrian people, just like we cared so much about the Iraqi people and the Afghani people. The only people that by this sort of stuff are either bought off … or the dumbest of the dumb!
And we are also led to believe that Assad is the dumbest idiot dictator on the planet. Now, is not he? Because he invited the UN inspectors to come in and he brought them in; [and] on the very day that they come in, he decides to attack his own people ten miles away from where the inspectors arrived! This is beyond ridiculous and the only people to buy this, again, are bought off … or the dumbest of the dumb!
Press TV: Ken O’Keefe we have alluded to this throughout this conversation and debate but there are many who are not buying the US’ viewpoints, they are not buying what the UK and France are doing along with the US. Because they are saying that what US is saying limited in scope is not going to hardly cripple Assad’s sizable military infrastructure and forces unless this is a wider-scale war.
Do you think that is what we are looking at?
O’Keefe: Well, there is no question that they do not intend for limited strikes and that is not going to do anything. They want to go in full-scale, that is the plan. Of course they will use a pretext to justify the initial attack and then they will concoct more things to justify a greater involvement.
The Daily Mail reported here in the UK, and it is commonly understood to those who are paying attention that defense contractors, leaked emails from defense contractors, proved that there was already an approved plan from Obama …, to give these psychopath terrorist al-Nusrah Front, chemical weapons!
We know that al-Nusrah Front, 12 individuals in Turkey were caught with two kilos of Sarin gas, where did they get that from? And this is, you know, clearly a false flag. We understand this to be true and it is the only way that they could justify an attack at all.
And I have to say that I am happy that the gentleman in Washington mentioned [General Martin E.] Dempsey, General Dempsey of the Joint Chiefs [of Staff], because I tell you what, more than anything else it is the true American patriots, those who were sick and tired of having given up their lives to, basically, serve the American dream, the American nation, the constitution that they swore to uphold.
It is those military men and women, it is you now, it is coming to you now! Are you a patriot or are you not? Are you going to let your nation to [be] sent even further into the chaos and corruption that has been so sick and so twisted, that is destroying the American lives, as well as the rest of the world, to the tune of 22 American servicemen a day, who are committing suicide.
Are you going to sacrifice more of your American sons and daughters for Israeli wars? For Zionist wars? Are you going to continue to do that because you are not a patriot?
You are in fact aiding and abetting the terrorists [that] you supposedly think you are fighting against! And those Americans who are waking up to this, I hope to God, in the military in particular, that refuse your orders and this is why the people of America who were refusing to buy this nonsense, their overwhelming majority, do not support any kind of attack on Syria and those in the military, I know that the powers that be are very, very frightened that higher-ups within the military will refuse the orders and I hope that this is exactly what happens if an attack on Syria occurs.